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What the Heck, Episode 52: Demetrious Johnson, Michael Chiesa, John Gooden and Laura Sanchez

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On this week’s episode of What the Heck, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck speaks with UFC commentator John Gooden (7:10) to recap Francis Ngannou’s second-round KO win over Stipe Miocic to become the heavyweight champion in the main event of UFC 260 this past Saturday, talks Jon Jones potentially being the first challenger for Ngannou, Sean O’Malley’s victory over Thomas Almeida, and his Keeping the Lights On fundraiser to help out gyms in the U.K. that have experienced hardships during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Former UFC champion and current ONE Championship competitor Demetrious Johnson (42:53) discusses his upcoming flyweight title fight against Adriano Moraes on April 7 at ONE on TNT 1, what it means to fight on a historic card for the company, his long layoff, how he sees the fight playing out, the ending to Petr Yan vs. Aljamain Sterling at UFC 259 and why there should be some rule changes, how Sterling has carried himself as champion, and why he is picking Jake Paul to beat Ben Askren on April 17.

No. 6 ranked UFC welterweight Michael Chiesa (1:07:58) gives his take on the heavyweight title change at UFC 260, what Stipe Miocic could’ve done differently, talks optimism Ngannou vs. Jones will get done, what he feels Jones has done incorrectly in his attempt to get what he wants for his heavyweight debut, Vicente Luque’s submission win over Tyron Woodley, being impressed with Miranda Maverick’s performance against Gillian Robertson and when he hopes to return.

Finally, PFL lightweight Laura Sanchez (1:29:53) discusses the upcoming season, her opening bout against Genah Fabian May 6 at PFL 3, how she became a fighter after a Division 1 and pro basketball career, training at Roufusport, thoughts on Kayla Harrison’s rise to the top of the division, and more.

Check out the video above, or the audio-only podcast can be found below, on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, and Stitcher.

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