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What the Heck, Episode 38: Brandon Moreno, Calvin Kattar, Cub Swanson, Chase Hooper and Khaos Williams

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On this week’s episode of What the Heck, MMA Fighting’s Mike Heck chats with UFC featherweight Cub Swanson (4:35) to recap his second-round knockout win over Daniel Pineda at UFC 256, discuss how different he approaches the game from a mental standpoint, his thoughts on not getting a bonus, and when he’s hoping to return to action.

UFC featherweight Calvin Kattar (26:38) previews his upcoming main event with Max Holloway on Jan. 16, talks being able to corner Rob Font for his UFC Vegas 17 fight with Marlon Moraes, his reaction to finding out he was fighting Holloway, believing his next fight will be for the belt if he wins, and the current state of boxing.

UFC 145er Chase Hooper (42:53) discusses his third-round submission win over Peter Barrett at UFC 256, how he felt about the first two rounds, his thoughts on the commentary during the fight, what he’s taken away from training with Ryan Hall, and plans to go to Thailand to improve his striking.

UFC welterweight Khaos Williams (1:00:44) talks his exciting matchup with Michel Pereira this Saturday at UFC Vegas 17, being motivated by recent wins from teammates Joaquin Buckley and Jamahal Hill, his thoughts on Pereira as an opponent, how he sees the fight playing out, and more.

Finally, UFC flyweight Brandon Moreno (1:13:50) details his instant classic flyweight title fight with Deiveson Figueiredo at UFC 256, the fight being a draw and how he scored it, the fouls that transpired in the second and third rounds, believing Figueiredo is making excuses, and when he hopes the rematch will take place.

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