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Gameness: The Nick Diaz vs. Carlos Condit Story

UFC 143's main event between Carlos Condit and Nick Diaz isn't special just because it sets up an interim UFC welterweight champion. This is that rare fight where both competitors marry technical acumen and amazing gameness in a bout of significance.

Feb 1, 2012 - What is gameness?

Author Sam Sheridan once defined it as pursuit of the fight despite the physical consequences. The term actually has roots in dog fighting. It's used to describe the eagerness of a dog to continue fighting through a grueling and injurious battle. The dog fighting atmospherics make the term somewhat unsavory to borrow for MMA purposes, but we're treading in metaphors, not literalism. As UFC 143's Carlos Condit himself states about his impending bout with Nick Diaz, "it's going to be a dog fight'.

There are a number of ways to parse the fight's merits or evaluate worthiness, but it'd be criminal to not note just how much gameness defines this bout's character. Every fighter has biological limits, but Diaz and Condit are two fighters who are nearly peerless when it comes to competing up to the outer limit of those boundaries.


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Numerous examples of their durability abound. Against Rory MacDonald, Condit was able to withstand a torrential downpour of ground and pound only to stop the rising prospect in the third round. Against Paul Daley, Diaz was floored on more than one occasion in a chaotic see-saw battle only to stop the Brit with strikes late in the first. Condit was floored with gargantuan punches early by Jake Ellenberger, but hung on and eventually took a decision. Diaz was getting drilled by hard punches from Takanori Gomi before driving the Japanese sensation back with strikes, ultimately submitting him with a spectacular gogo plata. The list of their gameness accolades is nearly endless.

That is precisely what makes gameness so pleasing: it's never weathered nor reduced. With limited and qualified exception, the damage Condit and Diaz have absorbed in the course of their fights never dampened their willingness or ability to strike back. When the tides turned, they flooded.

Gameness, though, shouldn't be crudely misinterpreted as solely the ability to take a shot. That's part of it, of course. But what it truly underscores is both ferocity and the enthusiastic participation for the scrap. Gameness, in other words, has both defensive and offensive components.

What unites Condit and Diaz - and what has made them fan favorites - is their willingness to engage risk as a means of winning a fight. As long as you're winning, being risk averse isn't generally the worst approach to fighting. However, it isn't particularly crowd pleasing and more importantly, it's an approach that flies in the face of what we understand as athletic bravery. What makes Diaz and Condit fairly unique is they've used this approach of accepting risk to reach some of the sport's loftiest positions. It's one thing for amateurs to brazenly throw caution to the wind to rile up the crowd in some sort of Pyrrhic victory. It's quite another for two of the sport's most successful welterweights to have reached these heights using a similar albeit more measured approach.

It's also historically accurate and demonstrably true wrestling has been used as a crutch for some fighters to coast through fatigue or rough patches during fights. The exhausted and less willed among the professional ranks have relied on it to hang on in precarious moments. Coincidentally or not, neither Diaz nor Condit is particularly proficient as a wrestler. Why is that important? No matter what direction the fight takes neither fighter will likely have the skills (and I suspect no inclination) to rely on wrestling as a means to slow down or stunt the action. This one won't be decided by one fighter more expertly exercising control to avoid risk.

I don't want to suggest gameness is the only reason this fight is special. There's obviously more to the story. But the level of gameness both fighters exhibit is extraordinary because they also possess deep experience and technical acumen. Neither fighter is careless, but neither fighter lets caution lord over them. That's unique. Over time as fighters gain experience and add skills, you'll often see a trade off in ferocity. With Diaz and Condit, however, you just see the ferocity more expertly channeled.

My early hunch is Nick Diaz will be able to outlast Carlos Condit en route to a decision victory. If that happens, he'll eventually face UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre. But en route to that end, I'd bet my mortgage he's going to catch a noteworthy beating at the hands of Condit.

I hope I'm not jinxing the bout, but given the records and deserved reputations of both fighters, it's hard to see how either gets out of this one early. Or easily. They're game for the scrap, from bell to bell, no matter the cost of doing business in between. At this level of the game - and in a five-round, interim title bout - that's a reality that deserves a little extra recognition.

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Great read

Although I dont know if I can see this going 5 rounds… If it does I would like to imagine it would be like Shogun vs. Henderson times 10…

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by NickaG on Feb 1, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

You may well be right

I’m not concrete in my belief this goes to a decision. Like I said, just a hunch.

Thanks for reading, though.

by Luke Thomas on Feb 1, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And...

Congrats on being the only writer I’ve seen willing to slum it in the comments section. The rest of them couldn’t care less it seems.

by Capable Legs on Feb 1, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Could not possibly rec this more.

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by T.C. Engel on Feb 1, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Very good article. The one thing I noticed watching tape is that Condit has a habit of running backwards while someone is throwing strikes at him. That, and he’s not very good in the pocket, Dan Hardy KO aside. So I see it either going to a hard fought decision that Diaz takes, or Diaz making Condit wilt under the pressure and stopping him. Good read again Luke.

by Fausto Geraci on Feb 1, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

Good article Luke!

I’m a big fan of Sheridan’s books and that concept is perfectly applied here. I’ve been hoping for this fight for years. Both guys are nearly impossible to stop, so a decision may be likely, which I agree favors Nick being able to keep the pace in the championship rounds as Carlos withers a bit. But I also think Carlos has improved more in the last year or two than Nick has and will be busting him up in the early rounds. Just a question of how badly, and whether it’s enough to overcome Nick’s slight advantage in endurance. Either way, it has all the makings of the most bloody-minded, full-tilt scrap of the year.

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by Kwisatz Haderach on Feb 1, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Good stuff

Diego Brandao told me that people have urged him not to take so many risks if he wants to go from Ultimate Fighter prospect to featherweight champion. I can see why his coaches would say that, but as a fan I hope he doesn’t. Guys like that who just go all-out from the opening bell are a big part of why this sport is so fun.

by Michael David Smith on Feb 1, 2012 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah it's all about finding the right mix and having controlled aggression.

Like a Jose Aldo.

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by TylerTreese on Feb 1, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

you tell Diego Brandao that the risks are what made him the ultimate fighter winner!!!!

by grizzly907 on Feb 1, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I like to see guys reach their full potential

And for Diego that means he’s gonna have to tighten up his punches and not come in so wildly. I mean, did anyone expect Bermudez to knock him down?

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by Rolandando on Feb 2, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesome article!

Gameness is a totally underutilized term in MMA, and it couldn’t be more fitting for two fighters than Condit and Diaz.

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by Patrick Wyman on Feb 1, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

Very well written article.

So to sum it up, you now work for MMA Fighting? Also is there a possibility to hear your Sirius without the subscription?

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by killphil on Feb 1, 2012 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

On the first part of your question, the answer is yes.

On the second part, I’m on a call trying to figure that out as we speak. I think we’ll definitely work something out.

by Luke Thomas on Feb 1, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Good to know.

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by killphil on Feb 1, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Pleasant surprise to stumble upon you here

Congratulations on selling out, Mr. Thomas.

What make Condit and Diaz so enjoyable, at least for me, is that are both almost completely offensively minded fighters. Their own defenses are based on their ability to keep their opponents on defense by constant and overwhelming offensive output. To borrow a phrase from boxing, they both “fight like a Mexican”.

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by John Nash on Feb 1, 2012 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

good point well made Luke

Thanks.
&you’re right to highlight the quality of unrelenting intent that partly defines these fighters (alongside high level technical destructiveness). Its definitely one of their most inspiring attributes, curiously absent from many successful fighters.

I think its also fascinating to consider your point on the relative lack of wrestling as a fundamental base with either… coincidence?

Funny, I’ve been reading MMA Fighting for years but haven’t been inclined to join, this is gonna be good, but will we be seeing Fowlkes, Chiappetta, Helwani and Co. slumming it in the comments section a little more?? :)
(MDS pops up all over the place already of course!)

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by rohedron on Feb 1, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, MDS is already here

I can’t speak for the other guys on staff, but I hope they get involved in the comments.

by Luke Thomas on Feb 1, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

MDS is absolutely gangsta about that.

Respected in sportswriting, not just the MMA community, and doesn’t have some horrible I AM AN INTERNET CELEBRITY ego about him. Just goes into the comments and confesses his love for Lindsay Lohan’s acting career:P

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by Paulo Filho's Psychiatrist on Feb 1, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow, it's weird for MMAFighting to be on the SBN platform.

But awesome nonetheless. Awesome article, Luke.

What unites Condit and Diaz – and what has made them fan favorites – is their willingness to engage risk as a means of winning a fight.

This sentence sums up this fight perfectly; I can’t wait just because it’s the first high level match up in a long ass time of two guys that fight with caution thrown to the wind. I hope whoever wins has a long reign and defeats GSP.

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by T.C. Engel on Feb 1, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

Wow

Really great article, looking forward to reading more of your work Mr. Thomas

by Rob2507 on Feb 1, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

Awesome article

Great work as always, Luke.

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by wonderfulspam on Feb 1, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

great article luke

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by MattParker117 on Feb 1, 2012 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Wow weird to have MMAFighting in SB format...

Love it though. So Luke, will MMAFighting be SB Nation’s MMA cornerstone now?

by lwood24 on Feb 1, 2012 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

It will be the flagship site

But BE and Mania are an afterthought on no one’s list. They rock.

by Luke Thomas on Feb 1, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You created a monster in BE which you can’t compete with

by AHutch on Feb 1, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

We're on the same team

It’s SBN vs. Everyone Else. We’re not cannibalizing ourselves, however.

by Luke Thomas on Feb 1, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm on team BE.

I dibs being on team BE.

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by T.C. Engel on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Article

This is gonna be a fucking fantastic fight. Probably the most excited I will be for a fight all year.

And I’m inviting every casual fan friend that I have over to watch. No mediocre cards being carried by big names, just a perfect example of what makes MMA awesome.

by Scott Whitaker on Feb 1, 2012 6:00 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

pretty awesome read

Honestly, i want both fighters to win. I want to see both fighters face GSP. And to be 100% honest, I would rather see the fight this weekend than either man facing GSP… The only thing that can ruin the magic of this fight is if either fighter is having an off day.

by grizzly907 on Feb 1, 2012 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

Luke Thomas-

In your honest opinion, who do you think has the better chance against GSP?

by grizzly907 on Feb 1, 2012 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

I initially thought Diaz

Then I was told by others whose opinion I respect Condit would be tougher. I guess I’ll wait to see how both look here to make a final judgment on that.

by Luke Thomas on Feb 1, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn ... this article was serious enough business

that it’s impossible to skim. I had to regroup and dive into each line.

Great piece. Congrats on the step.

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by Dallas Winston on Feb 1, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Great article! Great fight! I’m excited for this fight more than GSP vs. either of them.

by Tanner Duncan on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

Great article.

It is really weird that you can post on MMAFighting with your BloodyElbow account now.

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by Bolshevik on Feb 2, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Yep you never want to utter the word "shutout" till the end of the third period but this definately has the makings of a classic.

Well written article.

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by AriesKJJ on Feb 2, 2012 1:19 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

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by rohedron on Feb 2, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

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