Alex Caceres Will Appeal UFC 143 Loss Due to Two-Point Deduction

You laced three kicks to your opponents balls. You lost. Get over it.

Fools sick.

He actually only landed two illegal blows in the fight and both were accidental. I think the two point deduction was a joke and completely unfair, It would be different if he actually meant to hit him there but he didnt. A one point deduction would have made more sense. Yet even if he gets it reduced to a one point deduction, The fight would be a draw.

Herb Dean did the right thing, fighters should not be expecting to get away with as much cheating as they have been getting away with, because one time is an accident, the second time after you find your range and everything you all ready know where the kick is gonna land, its not as if the other dude jumped up and into the way of your kick, hopefully more fighters know you wont get away with this much longer, and he fully connected with both those kicks and hard and I never saw him try to hit him with inside leg kicks.

Definitely should have lost a point. I cannot ever remember a fighter having 2 points deducted for one incident, though. First kick gets the warning, and that is fine. Second one costs 1 point, and that is fine, too. Curious to hear the reasoning behind a two point deduction . . . 1 for each teste, maybe? Regardless, Caceres is still a prelim guy, so he should worry more about his accuracy than his deuctions.

Fighters need to start taking note of warnings or they’re going to keep losing fights. Koscheck was extremely lucky not to lose a point for eye pokes after repeated warnings. It’s pretty easy to avoid kicking a dude in the nuts the second time. Alex shouldn’t have been inside kicking Edwin in the first place he should have been concentrating on taking Edwin down as he took his back with little effort over and over again.

if this was a 10 rd boxing fight then i would agree with herb dean , you cant be giving 2 pt deductions after only 1 warning in a 3 rd fight especially when they were accidental.

2 point reduction (he should have lost 1)

And then Kosheck doesn’t lose ANY points?!

Cmon Herb! Your a better ref than this. I would expect this kind of inconsistency from Mazzagotti

The first one was pure unintentional, but it had power so Herb gave him a strong warning. Note: a traditional-art kickboxer is highly proficient and accurate where he strikes his kicks, so the second kick, however, was carelessness and ignorance toward the strong warning, since Figueroa was UNQUESTIONABLY STATIONARY in the moments leading up to the kick, I mean Caceras didn’t even set up the kick. So to be fair, Herb didn’t call the fight, he gave a more prominent point deduction. I agree it is controversial, but the way he was fighting certainly added to the reasons for it.

Caceras fights Bruce Lee style (Jeet Kune Do). I’ve been studying this art for years and he performs it to the detail, with the southpaw/unorthodox “on-guard” stance. But his problem is that he uses the tactics too much, i.e. self-defense street fighting, so essentially he doesn’t fight true MMA. Last time i checked, this isnt a style vs. style spectacle anymore, this is the UFC, a mixed martial arts promotion. He needs to round his game more. You’re supposed to shoot a takedown, and pass guard. you WORK for submissions, not jump on the dudes back like (no racism intended at all) a monkey. If he was a true MMA fighter, he would have submitted that dude. Figueroa had no ground game besides stellar rear naked defense.

Piss-poor fight in terms of MMA. You have a Muay Thai brawler trying to push the pace against a wussy who is too scared to move up in weight where people his height normally fight, who just backs away and repeats the most rudimentary southpaw jab countering I’ve seen in the UFC. I give Figueroa insane credit for that Thai kick he landed to Leeroy’s dome, he faked out Caceras so bad with that, it is incredibly difficult to feint out a southpaw counter-fighter and land something dramatic like that. I’m telling, you watch the fight again, Figueroa set that up perfectly. I think he feinted-out two of Cacera’s counters to set it up, he recognized Caceras’ rotation of counters, and threw it at the perfect time. Hat off to both of them for their boxing exchanges.

Sadly, even if he wins the appeal and gets it changed to a 1 point deduction, it’ll be a majority draw on the scorecards. But that’s better than a loss. I was baffled as to why Herb made it a 2 point deduction as usually those are reserved for intentional fouls. Perhaps the ‘strong’ warning Herb gave Alex in the first was meant to be a “don’t let it happen, period, harsh consequences, etc” kind of warning. But both kicks were unintentional, clearly. Should only be a 1 point deduction. Don’t remember another case where this happened at all when it came to accidental groin kicks.